Command Decision - Test of Battle

General Discussion - Test of Battle :: Introduced a new player...

Author: DougE
Subject: Introduced a new player...
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:14 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 0

Wednesday night I introduced another gaming buddy of mine to ToB. I know Ian from our sci fi gaming...no not 40k either...and he was impressed by the game...even though I was just a little lenient he had fun with the system. He even thought the command orders was a good idea as well which he said something along the lines of 'brings some surprises and randomness to the game'.
Not only is he a sci fi gamer, but he does a bit about history, especially WW2...not alot on the equipment but just from what he's seen and/or read. The Hasty advance order he thought was pretty cool when using T-34's and Bt-7's and cannot imagine using that same order for tanks to burn down a road...he thought it would be interesting to see those types of results, but then again, he figured it would be the end of those tanks too made me chuckle.
All I can say is, even thought Ray and I are still trying to figure out the rules (been awhile since our last major engagement), he had some serious fun...even when his T-34's failed to take out the 88 at Med range...that was great. Will he play again...he said he would
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Rules Questions :: RE: Road movement clarification,

Author: DougE
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:04 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 2

Thought as much, thanks Jake...
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Rules Questions :: RE: Movement and shooting,

Author: DougE
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:03 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 6

Yes it was actually 3 inches of forest...but that is good to know for next time around.
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Game Photos/After Action Reports :: RE: Quick Battle,

Author: olde-tanker
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:47 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 18

Dear Bill,

No retyping on this end, just editing the existing one.

There are other issues that you might care to think about too.

Consider that an 88 in the woods cannot hit a M3 Grant/ Lee tank at 1,000 yards but the Lee can knock out the 88 at 3,000 yards with the 88 being in the woods.

To my mind, there are some things here that are counter to what we might think.

It is for this reason that I have concluded a while back (but did not bring up this bite of the elephant yet) that for the high performance guns (like the ones you mentioned) that I alter the AP range (TOB heresy follows) to 3,000 yards. Again this is only for the cannons that are considered to have HV properties.

Anyway, if you are still reading this, thanks for your consideration and letting me explain. This stuff is hard to do at long ranges...
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Rules Questions :: RE: Beginner's questions.

Author: grumble 87106
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:24 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 25

quote:
Nobody expects the CD inquisition!

"That is one of our principle weapons! Surprise, Fear and.... and... what was the third one? Surprise, Fear, and... and..."

Maybe the impression that a stand is pinned from being forced back by fire is a mental hold-over from CD3, where that was indeed the case. In CD4 it is not.
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Daniel

Rules Questions :: RE: Road movement clarification,

Author: Jake Strangeway
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:47 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 2

You may only use road movement if you begin and end the turn on a road.

Take, for example, Panzer IV which on a cautious advance moves 12 cross country and 24 on the road.

If it starts 4 inches way from the road, then if it is on a cautious advance, it only moves 12 inches maximum - it may not move 24 inches because it did not start on the road.

Rules Questions :: RE: Movement and shooting,

Author: Jake Strangeway
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:46 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 6

There is a difference between being in cover and being behind blocking terrain that stops LOS.

Normally tree-lines are open blocking terrain, and so he would have been able to be seen through it, and would have received no cover.

If you are saying that that was actually 3 inches of forest, then LOS was blocked, so he could not be targeted - and that doesn't matter what movement order he was given.

Rules Questions :: Road movement clarification,

Author: DougE
Subject: Road movement clarification,
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:01 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 2

Just so I understand the road movement rules, if a T-34 is 4 inches away from a road and enters onto the road, it must use up the rest of its off road allowance before it can use its road allowance right?

I hope I made that clear enough for some to understand
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"Ever since I was a child I have had this instinctive urge for expansion and growth. To me, the function and duty of a quality human being is the sincere and honest development of one's potential."
Bruce Lee

Rules Questions :: RE: Movement and shooting,

Author: DougE
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:59 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 6

quote:
If the target is on Hasty Advance orders, they do not receive cover modifiers at all.

This was one thing that he did was his Hasty order for the T-34's put them behind a tree line that is about 3 inches in width. Because it was classed as dense trees, there would be a cover modifier as both sides were 8 inches apart and a tree line of 3 inches. And according to rule 11.2.2 the only way to see the other team (opponent, enemy stand) you have to be at the trees edge and no more than 2 inches apart.

Am I correct on this?
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Doug

"Ever since I was a child I have had this instinctive urge for expansion and growth. To me, the function and duty of a quality human being is the sincere and honest development of one's potential."
Bruce Lee

General Discussion - Off Topic :: Got a copy of: Brassey's Essential Guide Military Small Arms

Author: Bill Owen
Subject: Got a copy of: Brassey's Essential Guide Military Small Arms
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:49 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 0

Maybe I'm missing something (like it has gold-plated pages) but someone is selling a used copy of:
Brassey's Essential Guide to Military Small Arms: Design Principles and Operating Methods
For $600 on Amazon... I think I gave a copy to the library for the 25 cent fundraising sale

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1857531078/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

The commenter said something like Paper Books are a new investment category "New copies were advertised for around �800 in Britain a couple of years back, now they've sold out. - I got my copy new for �50 about 10 years ago, and I'm keeping it."

I know some of you guys could strike it rich!
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General Discussion - Off Topic :: RE: Around the club

Author: Cheese
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:20 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 40

quote:
... mindless creatures of an oppressive state?

Definitely the other side....

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Rules Questions :: RE: Beginner's questions.

Author: tmharris
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:30 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 25

Nobody expects the CD inquisition!

General Discussion - Test of Battle :: RE: Rules - Date of Publication

Author: tmharris
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:27 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 66

I will say that having played with the design system for our play tests (you don't think I let Frank do the math ). It is one of the easiest systems I have ever had to work with. Very reverse engineer from a model friendly.

History :: RE: US MG allocation

Author: pnzr12
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:49 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 7

I agree with Frank, this argument is very week. In all accounts that I've read the US Army was the most well equipped force in the war, and the assertation that there were no dedicated crew is total BUNK. I do howerver see the point at squad level of always needing suport.

Game Photos/After Action Reports :: RE: Quick Battle,

Author: pnzr12
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:40 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 18

I see we have fallen deep into the bushes.